Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Just another word of wisdom for ya, if you still wanna go through with the rear mount turbo.. it'd probably be better to have it either infront of the diff, or in the boot with the exhaust re-routed up through the floor. (and ventillate the boot obviously..)
The reason I say this is (at least on the GJ scorp I know for sure) the exhaust pipe goes up and over the diff in weird and wonderful angles then theres not much room to play with afterward.. You'd want to avoid using a muffler before the turbo, but unless the tracks you go to allow for high db ratings, you'd want one AFTER the turbo.
Using bootspace would probably be best.. cant damage the turbos then from impacts, and can use the rear wheel arches/quarter panels to add ducting and intake etc.. European supercar style
Good luck again, and would really love to see progress pics lots and lots of progress pics
Cheers,
Chris
PS: So Stealth, where abouts could I source some info on buying boost ready blowthrough hif-44's? and why choose them over other carbs?
The reason I say this is (at least on the GJ scorp I know for sure) the exhaust pipe goes up and over the diff in weird and wonderful angles then theres not much room to play with afterward.. You'd want to avoid using a muffler before the turbo, but unless the tracks you go to allow for high db ratings, you'd want one AFTER the turbo.
Using bootspace would probably be best.. cant damage the turbos then from impacts, and can use the rear wheel arches/quarter panels to add ducting and intake etc.. European supercar style
Good luck again, and would really love to see progress pics lots and lots of progress pics
Cheers,
Chris
PS: So Stealth, where abouts could I source some info on buying boost ready blowthrough hif-44's? and why choose them over other carbs?
'81 GJ Scorp: Donated to a mate for a 2JZ Turbo project.
'84 Honda VT250F Integra: Daily transport, mountain racer and track bitch all in one.. damn slow in a straight line though
Future Project (on hold until I move to Melbourne in July): 2.6L Wideblock Astron 2 - Eaton M90 supercharger, draw through 45DCOE Weber.
'84 Honda VT250F Integra: Daily transport, mountain racer and track bitch all in one.. damn slow in a straight line though
Future Project (on hold until I move to Melbourne in July): 2.6L Wideblock Astron 2 - Eaton M90 supercharger, draw through 45DCOE Weber.
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
chris
sumidel sell these carbs but are expensive
2 hif44 flow 55ocfm and are boost capable stock there easy to
set and tune have a high pressure feul bowl and look cool to
the hif-44 came on many vehicles factory and bikes and there
were factory turbo set up using them up 15psi(mg metro)
i also notice that lethal G has one one his draw thru set up
but dont think for a second that im going the cheap way out as this is
not cheap and is a very involed test engine that probably will never
see a chassis
cheers stealth
sumidel sell these carbs but are expensive
2 hif44 flow 55ocfm and are boost capable stock there easy to
set and tune have a high pressure feul bowl and look cool to
the hif-44 came on many vehicles factory and bikes and there
were factory turbo set up using them up 15psi(mg metro)
i also notice that lethal G has one one his draw thru set up
but dont think for a second that im going the cheap way out as this is
not cheap and is a very involed test engine that probably will never
see a chassis
cheers stealth
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
is it running yet?
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
ALL people must remember that NO ONE is right or wrong
I myself am doing a budget buggie ATM using a ...
Diahutsu charade turbo motor
these were stock turbo carb blow through ,even has a overboost (blow off) standard ,but no cooler but quite redily put one tween turbs and carb
his ideas are sound ,manufactures HAVE done this before (albeit archaic)
hint ,do it with a xf falcon webber ,full closed carb
I myself am doing a budget buggie ATM using a ...
Diahutsu charade turbo motor
these were stock turbo carb blow through ,even has a overboost (blow off) standard ,but no cooler but quite redily put one tween turbs and carb
his ideas are sound ,manufactures HAVE done this before (albeit archaic)
hint ,do it with a xf falcon webber ,full closed carb
keep trying, it WILL break !!!!!!
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Haha thanks larace i knew my ideas werent that obscene as soon as im healed up im going 120% on this car my motorbike can wait now as its gonna need a complete new front end before its rideable.
I had a motorbike accident last wednesday both my hands are bandaged and both my knees i also have a bruised kidney which is bleeding slightly but all looks like im healing and all that good.
I had a motorbike accident last wednesday both my hands are bandaged and both my knees i also have a bruised kidney which is bleeding slightly but all looks like im healing and all that good.
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
larace wrote:ALL people must remember that NO ONE is right or wrong
I myself am doing a budget buggie ATM using a ...
Diahutsu charade turbo motor
these were stock turbo carb blow through ,even has a overboost (blow off) standard ,but no cooler but quite redily put one tween turbs and carb
his ideas are sound ,manufactures HAVE done this before (albeit archaic)
hint ,do it with a xf falcon webber ,full closed carb
the daihatsu carby accelerator pump starts spraying fuel out at about 12psi remove the carby make a spacer to go from manifold to stock plenum and stick a 1.75su in front of the carby tou go 20psi with water injection and a bit of fiddling with the oil in the carby. from memory we used 50/50 tq85 and sewing machine oil in the end but was 10 years ago the am abit fague atm.
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
the sts thing sounds wild! wow great to see some outside the box thoughts delivered top results! i commend you spec ops on thinking and researching outside the box for sure, and as i said in the other thread ideas are great things, but nothing in the hands of a fool.
I hope that given all the stuff ive read from you and the guys helping, criticising or trying to encourage you that you have the sense, the smarts, and the CASH to put something together. If you do, you just may turn some scene on their heads....
good luck.
I hope that given all the stuff ive read from you and the guys helping, criticising or trying to encourage you that you have the sense, the smarts, and the CASH to put something together. If you do, you just may turn some scene on their heads....
good luck.
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Factory Sigma Turbo #500
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220rwkw @ 15psi daily driver/project
Factory Sigma Turbo #500
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
haha thanks tr11ky appreciate the advice/support i have decided against it tho lol still going to do something different just not a rear mounted turbo ive been focusing on my newly obtained toy atm
might do twin remote mounted turbo on that instead
might do twin remote mounted turbo on that instead
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Wat u mean its stock officer
Not much of a commonwhore fan to be honest but i know how much money and love my mates has thrown at this car and when he told me he was selling it there was no way i was going to pass it up especially at 20K. Hes spent over 100k on it and hes a really switched on kinda guy when it comes to cars everything (nuts, bolts, washer etc etc) has been replaced for brand new high quality top shelf replacements and i mean everything he even redid the ruppers on the blinkers . Also when all this stuff was bought it was at trade price hes been building the car for 6 years and up until a year ago was parts manager at a auto 1 shop.
Its already got rego and a mod plate so hopefully all good its only a half cage aswell so i think should be alright. Shes a full drag setup should run high 10s - low 11s and put out round 400 hp went to a dyno shootout on sunday and she put out 336 hp with 7400rpm chip in the msd ignition only about 90% throttle tho, previously it put out 352 hp with 8000 chip at 75% throttle. The carby hasnt been tuned properly its in the shop now needs to have butterflys welded up plus get rejetted after that were gonna put the 7800 chip in and leave it. So all thats left to do is sort out the throttle seems the off the shelf stuff doesnt work like its supposed to so have to make something up to get full throttle. Ive got a set of original walkinshaw wheels for street use but i think i might sell them and find something else the wheels in the photo are 4 inch wide on the front which are impossible to drive with on the street.
Heres better photo to see front tyres
Anyways im off to bed ill let u guys know how it turns out if anyones interested i didnt bother posting anything up about her yet cos in the end shes still a commonwhore
Not much of a commonwhore fan to be honest but i know how much money and love my mates has thrown at this car and when he told me he was selling it there was no way i was going to pass it up especially at 20K. Hes spent over 100k on it and hes a really switched on kinda guy when it comes to cars everything (nuts, bolts, washer etc etc) has been replaced for brand new high quality top shelf replacements and i mean everything he even redid the ruppers on the blinkers . Also when all this stuff was bought it was at trade price hes been building the car for 6 years and up until a year ago was parts manager at a auto 1 shop.
Its already got rego and a mod plate so hopefully all good its only a half cage aswell so i think should be alright. Shes a full drag setup should run high 10s - low 11s and put out round 400 hp went to a dyno shootout on sunday and she put out 336 hp with 7400rpm chip in the msd ignition only about 90% throttle tho, previously it put out 352 hp with 8000 chip at 75% throttle. The carby hasnt been tuned properly its in the shop now needs to have butterflys welded up plus get rejetted after that were gonna put the 7800 chip in and leave it. So all thats left to do is sort out the throttle seems the off the shelf stuff doesnt work like its supposed to so have to make something up to get full throttle. Ive got a set of original walkinshaw wheels for street use but i think i might sell them and find something else the wheels in the photo are 4 inch wide on the front which are impossible to drive with on the street.
Heres better photo to see front tyres
Anyways im off to bed ill let u guys know how it turns out if anyones interested i didnt bother posting anything up about her yet cos in the end shes still a commonwhore
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Well 65K on this build but on the car including previous build hes spent well over 100k plus hes throwing in all the original parts and spares + another set of drag rims with 3 inch front runners and 8 inch rears with mt slicks + stuff from old build + hes throwing in a 95 v6 camry with a top of the range alpine system in it LOL.TUFSIG wrote:100k your serious aint you
seems a bit out there for a VC not making that much pwoer for 100k
Im going to replace all the alpine gear bar the head deck with whats in my gfs current car and give the camry to her ill put all the alpine gear in my vc and get a new dvd player to go with it for show n shines etc (or for while im waiting in queue at the drags lol).
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
- EVL076
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
100k and its only making 400 HP?
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
70k - 527 RWHP, 15% under driven blower, so its only there to look at really... 10.35 @ 136mph:
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
70k - 527 RWHP, 15% under driven blower, so its only there to look at really... 10.35 @ 136mph:
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
a vc commodore though... lol there like the premature vl... thats what i think anyways.
vk,vb all look shit
vk,vb all look shit
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
I know id rather have a 355 stroked vc then a fully sick vl turbo with 22s HAHAHAHAGC75 wrote:a vc commodore though... lol there like the premature vl... thats what i think anyways.
vk,vb all look shit
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
me 2 altho id rather have a scorp turbo over a sigma turbo :!:TUFSIG wrote:i think id have to agree with that statement but id rather have a sigma turbo lol
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
- amgis_obrut
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
40k and just shy of 800hp
spending 100k on a car is pretty easy these days, i have spent 30k on my cortina and thats basically just on the engine diff and trans and suspension
spending 100k on a car is pretty easy these days, i have spent 30k on my cortina and thats basically just on the engine diff and trans and suspension
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Nice work amgis i like that its very beefy im prbly going to go the turbo route when i go forced induction simply because it launches hard already and i dont wanna have to mini-tub it plus then i can drive it on the street without wheel spinning every takeoff lol.
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
bargain, spec ops.
come on guys that hood scoop alone has 65k worth of plastic in it ;)
come on guys that hood scoop alone has 65k worth of plastic in it ;)
- amgis_obrut
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
I dont see why its so hard to believe that the VC has had 100k put into it
Its pretty easy to do for a full ground up build
My mates single carb 355 has cost him 27k excluding all the engine dyno time and makes 588 fwhp
add all the r&d and it would be close to 60k just on an engine
it dont look like 27k
Its pretty easy to do for a full ground up build
My mates single carb 355 has cost him 27k excluding all the engine dyno time and makes 588 fwhp
add all the r&d and it would be close to 60k just on an engine
it dont look like 27k
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Gee, and I thought may motor was dear at $1400.00
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
Sigmaproject wrote:Gee, and I thought may motor was dear at $1400.00
well theres not to many other holden v8's that will beat it over the 1/4 so its worth it
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
thats where opinion comes into place.
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- amgis_obrut
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well you can either spend the cash and be at the front of the pack or ...GC75 wrote:thats where opinion comes into place.
if you want to have the fastest holden V8 in the land you need to spend the cash if you dont the dont
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
with 20k couldnt ya buy something that would completly smoke it?
by that i mean everyone has there own cup of tea lol.
by that i mean everyone has there own cup of tea lol.
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
GC75 wrote:with 20k couldnt ya buy something that would completly smoke it?
by that i mean everyone has there own cup of tea lol.
not a hope in hell
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
amgis man that good hp and cheap!
for 27k i wont even give you a workshop tour cheapest engine
we got is worth 270k and only makes 728 max
and for half a mill you can get 3500hp for 6 seconds (sometimes)
anyway just my 2 cents
cheers stealth
for 27k i wont even give you a workshop tour cheapest engine
we got is worth 270k and only makes 728 max
and for half a mill you can get 3500hp for 6 seconds (sometimes)
anyway just my 2 cents
cheers stealth
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
while it's always fun to build an engine...when you start talking that kinda money you could be looking at something more like this..http://www.pentastarparts.com.au/sunsho ... tail&p=874
*wipes drool off keyboard*
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
are you talking specifically about Holden V8s?
Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
hell no i wouldnt touch a holden v8 if you paid me!
ford,chev,and mopar/HEMI
cheers stealth
ford,chev,and mopar/HEMI
cheers stealth
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Re: Awesome Turbo Setup (MUST READ)
this engine in an LJ sedan street car has run the best of an 8.6, makes a tad over 720hp on n20stealth wrote:amgis man that good hp and cheap!
for 27k i wont even give you a workshop tour cheapest engine
we got is worth 270k and only makes 728 max
and for half a mill you can get 3500hp for 6 seconds (sometimes)
anyway just my 2 cents
cheers stealth
Yeah i like my big block fords and 318 strokers
i wish i never sold my charger
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